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nov. 2, 2009, 1:25pm (tetejére)1. üzenet: Macumbeira

The Official British Fiction Hitlist !!

There were some innuendo’s that I was not considering women or minorities as valid writers. I really feel offended : ).

Here are the 10 best fiction writers of the British Isles ever !

Emma by Jane Austen……. A Woman !!!!
Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte…..another Woman !!!
The Nigger of the Narcissus By Conrad…… a Polak !!!!
Great Expectancies by Charles Dickens…..a Brit !
Ulysses by James Joyce…..an Irish bloke !!!
Lady Chatterley’s Lover by DH Lawrence….. a Pervert !!!!
Under the Volcano by Malcolm Lowry…… a drunk
The Waves by Virginia Woolf….. another woman ????
The Lord of the Flies by William Golding…. A…a Genius !!!!
The Portrait of Dorian Grey by Oscar Wilde… a … a ( wink , wink )

I was tempted to include the Sonnets by Shakespeare but I dare not

All of them great great great writers.

nov. 2, 2009, 1:26pm (tetejére)2. üzenet: slickdpdx

I bet someone will suggest replacing DH. Wait, I just did! Also, Lowry. Really? Also Jane Eyre for Wuthering Heights.

Tho. Hardy may replace either DH or Lowry.

Defoe can replace the other.

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nov. 2, 2009, 1:30pm (tetejére)3. üzenet: urania1

Mac,

I merely raised a question. No innuendos were meant. The question is still a valid one. Are you brave enough to take a stab at it.

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nov. 2, 2009, 1:36pm (tetejére)4. üzenet: Macumbeira

Brave me ? I eat crocodiles for breakfast ! I make love to grizzly Bears ! I post lists on the Salon billboard !

nov. 2, 2009, 1:40pm (tetejére)5. üzenet: urania1

>5

So only authors who eat crocodiles for breakfast, make love to grizzly bears, and post lists on the Salon billboard qualify as great authors? Or do you refer to novels that include these actions?

nov. 2, 2009, 1:47pm (tetejére)6. üzenet: LolaWalser

I'd drop Golding and Conrad.

But what am I saying? I don't even believe in lists!

*wakes up, Little Nemo-like*

Yes, mama! It's me! I was dreaming! I'll get back into bed again!

nov. 2, 2009, 1:48pm (tetejére)7. üzenet: urania1

Lola,

Would you care to enter the discussion on this thread

nov. 2, 2009, 1:50pm (tetejére)8. üzenet: slickdpdx

I second dropping Golding. I should have noticed that anamoly before!

nov. 2, 2009, 2:02pm (tetejére)9. üzenet: Macumbeira

> 3 : )

nov. 2, 2009, 4:12pm (tetejére)10. üzenet: nannybebette

This list, I think I would leave as is. I don't think you can remove Golding, as Lord of the Flies is a masterpiece any way you look at it. And though I agree with the perversions of D.H., I think that one must remain as well. I think this is a good, well rounded list.

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nov. 2, 2009, 4:21pm (tetejére)11. üzenet: Macumbeira

Thanks Nanny, luv you.

nov. 2, 2009, 4:24pm (tetejére)12. üzenet: EnriqueFreeque

Boy we sure could've used nanny early on on that U.S.A. list! Welcome to the salon nannybebette!

nov. 2, 2009, 4:26pm (tetejére)13. üzenet: EnriqueFreeque

Wait a minute! Did I just see Ulysses on that list?!

Get Ulysses off that list Mac...NOW!!!

nov. 2, 2009, 4:31pm (tetejére)14. üzenet: EnriqueFreeque

James Joyce is not British anyway, he's Irish! Only N. Ireland is part of the United Kingdom.

nov. 2, 2009, 6:14pm (tetejére)15. üzenet: nannybebette

>#11;
luv u 2!

>#12;
Thank you and I am on the U.S.A. hit list. Check out #'s 100, 103, and 108.

>#11:
The luv can change. It's just a feeling, ya know.

belva

nov. 2, 2009, 8:39pm (tetejére)16. üzenet: Torikton

>2 Wuthering Heights removed for Jane Eyre? No, no, no, no! Take out Lord of the Flies to make room for Jane Eyre! WH must stay!

I don't think I'd count Joyce as a British writer, but I've not yet read Ulysses, so I don't really feel qualified to argue that point.

I would change The Waves to Orlando. In defense of this opinion, I cite Borges: "{Orlando is} Virginia Woolf's most intense and one of the most singular {novels} of our era."

nov. 2, 2009, 8:45pm (tetejére)17. üzenet: nannybebette

One cannot dismiss Lord of the Flies. It is a singular masterpiece whereas, though I love both Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights, they are not. They have been done before and since, just not as significantly nor as well.
And as to Woolf; most any book of hers you put in there will stand the test of time.
belva

nov. 2, 2009, 9:19pm (tetejére)18. üzenet: theaelizabet

Hey Belva! Good to see you here! Welcome!

nov. 2, 2009, 9:25pm (tetejére)19. üzenet: Torikton

Well perhaps (probably) I'm a tasteless cretin, but I didn't particularly like LotF. Agreed about Woolf though.

nov. 2, 2009, 9:48pm (tetejére)20. üzenet: A_musing

Really, all the best British writers are Irish, now, aren't they?

If the "real British" stuff is just Austen, well, they can keep it.

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nov. 2, 2009, 9:49pm (tetejére)21. üzenet: nannybebette

Hey theaelizabet;
thanx. This is going to be an endless debate.
Good to see you as well.
hugs,
belva

nov. 2, 2009, 11:05pm (tetejére)22. üzenet: booksfallapart

Brideshead. Revisited.

nov. 2, 2009, 11:19pm (tetejére)23. üzenet: Porius

James Hogg.

nov. 3, 2009, 5:20am (tetejére)24. üzenet: tomcatMurr

Dammit, how the beleeeeeeeeedin heck am I supposed to get any work done around here!

If we remove Ulysses on the grounds that it's Irish (masterpeice though it is,) and remove The Picture of Dorian Grey on the same grounds (is that cheating? Anyway by no means Saint Oscar's best work) and remove DH Lawrence on the grounds that he is almost as dumb as Hemingway in a wishy washy Brit kind of way, that gives us three more books.

I propose Middlemarch (no list of great British lit is complete without G Eliot, come on people!), Vanity Fair and possibly Earthly Powers.

I would also like to float the idea of replacing Great Expectations with Bleak House, and the Nigger of the Narcissus with Under Western Eyes or The Heart of Darkness.

nov. 3, 2009, 11:08am (tetejére)25. üzenet: A_musing

Beowulf
Sir Gawain
Paradise Lost
Canterbury Tales
Morte d'Arthur
Leviathan
Essays of Elia and A Dissertation on Roast Pig
Alice in Wonderland
Under Milk Wood
Lighthouse

The British novel as a whole is a disaster. Dickens? Austen? Zzzzzz. Do these people have anything to talk about other than how rich some are and how poor others are and who the King or Queen likes?

Plays and poetry would be harder. British plays. Now that would be difficult.

nov. 3, 2009, 11:11am (tetejére)26. üzenet: theaelizabet

"British plays. Now that would be difficult." Agreed.

nov. 3, 2009, 1:16pm (tetejére)27. üzenet: nannybebette

****throws hands in air and leaves room****

nov. 3, 2009, 1:28pm (tetejére)28. üzenet: jdthloue

Oy Vey...i thought you meant Contemporary British...CLASSICS slay me...and i refuse to nitpick...oh, i got a useless BA in English Lit from Antioch College (circa 1973).......on the merits of Wuthering Heights...and my ability to bullshit...

......don't get me started on the merits of English Lit...okay?

nov. 3, 2009, 1:28pm (tetejére)29. üzenet: booksfallapart

Here's to you, #25. Although the British novel improves sharply after the first war, due to the decline of exactly the tendencies you mention, n'est-ce pas?

nov. 3, 2009, 1:30pm (tetejére)30. üzenet: booksfallapart

Oh yeah, and Wuthering Heights is an exception.

nov. 3, 2009, 2:02pm (tetejére)31. üzenet: Medellia

Yeah! Reading about the subtleties of human interaction is super boring! Not to mention useless!

nov. 3, 2009, 6:25pm (tetejére)32. üzenet: tomcatMurr

come on Meddy, let's leave these philistines and go play some schubert.

nov. 3, 2009, 6:59pm (tetejére)33. üzenet: Medellia

How did you know that I spent this afternoon poring over his lieder? (Because you're me, of course!)

nov. 3, 2009, 7:01pm (tetejére)34. üzenet: EnriqueFreeque

I thought Lola was you.

nov. 3, 2009, 7:04pm (tetejére)35. üzenet: Medellia

We are a glorious Trinity.

nov. 3, 2009, 8:14pm (tetejére)36. üzenet: geneg

Sounds like a sock puppet to me.

I am he and he is me and we are all together.

nov. 3, 2009, 8:15pm (tetejére)37. üzenet: slickdpdx

You beat Porius to the punchbowl!

nov. 3, 2009, 8:43pm (tetejére)38. üzenet: Porius

you too Slick?

nov. 3, 2009, 8:45pm (tetejére)39. üzenet: Medellia

Ah, but I could never pretend to the brilliance of my better two-thirds. Then again, maybe I'm the sockpuppet. Oh dear, I've just talked myself into an identity crisis.

nov. 3, 2009, 9:37pm (tetejére)40. üzenet: booksfallapart

Can I be RSHabroptilus? I bet that guy gets all the chicks.

nov. 3, 2009, 10:30pm (tetejére)41. üzenet: solla

Children of Violence series, Shikasta series Doris Lessing
Iris Murdoch

(vissza a tetejére)

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